Comments on: The state of web education

By: Justin

Justin — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:20:39 +0000

There’s a lot of things wrong with the web education in schools today. Follow people like @anna_debenham and see what she’s trying to accomplish. Also, get involved with P2P Web Craft where you have the opportunity to contribute to courses that are available on the web to improve the education resources outside of the classroom.

By: Ryan Leaper

Ryan Leaper — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:12:43 +0000

A very interesting article with some interesting comments. I think the question is if its the university or the pupil who is the most responsible for the standard and quality of the work. Whilst there are are some examples that show potential I agree that the overall standard is pretty poor. I think especially considering the costs involved in further education every effort should be made by the pupils themselves to really make the most of each and every project. I think there has to be a certain level of self education in order for pupils to really develop. However whilst you cannot teach creativity I do believe more could be done to help inspire pupils in terms of design ideas and inspiration. It’s down to the university to teach not only how to build websites but how to design them as well.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:59:20 +0000

Well Matthew judging by your own work it’s obvious you know what you’re doing, looks like you’ll just have to blow your tutor’s expectations out of the water!

By: Matthew Leak

Matthew Leak — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:40:38 +0000

I’m a Freelance web designer and also a first year at MMU. Luckily though, I’m not taking the degree that’s listed above, instead, computer science. However, in the first year one of my ‘introduction to multimedia and the WWW’ assignments is to build a HTML page… Wait for it… in HTML 4! Seriously, it’s such bull. The lecturers over there are clueless. I argued that they shouldn’t be teaching what is quite frankly, an outdated language in a rapidly developing industry. Their arguement was that we could get a client who requests a website that conforms to web standards and they require the site to be in HTML 4. My arguement to that was simple. “You are talking out of your arse.”

It needs kicking into touch and the lecturers need to be shot. The Web stuff needs to be taught by someone young and creative, not someone who is 40+ and old fashioned and putting it simply, ‘not with it.’

By: Haseeb

Haseeb — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:25:13 +0000

I wanted to write a long post on this but Time constraints do not permit me – however I will put just one line – “Education does make difference and it opens up the mind”

By: Mandeep Khunkhuna

Mandeep Khunkhuna — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:34:46 +0000

The websites that the students have produced show that they have basic development skills. At degree level, they should be creating quality work. I know from experience myself that many lecturers leave the technical stuff for the student to learn in their own time. I agree with Luc, the ones that created the good websites, most likely knew what they were doing before hand. The university education system really needs to be taken a look at, when it comes to the web courses.

By: Amelia Johnson

Amelia Johnson — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:50:49 +0000

Looking at these websites I’m pretty shocked. If you spend that much on web design or web development course, you would think that it would be taught to a high standard. However university is a lot about your own hard work and taking time to learn things yourself. I did a course in Graphic Design and we were given a brief module on the web. The end result of most of the people on my course was better than what is being displayed by these final years. I think it would be hard to come to a conclusion of whether it is the University’s fault or the student, I think I would consider it to be a bit of both.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:03:32 +0000

All subject matter concerning the internet in formal teaching, HAS to be job specific.
Its great to write an essay on the beginnings of the internet, blah, blah, but students have to know what skills potential employees are looking for, then read, practice and create.
If not, the course is just acedemic theory.
From day one, students should be building websites, optimising them for the web, then promoting.
I’ve come across a few students in their second year, who say they have learnt some xhtml, php, etc. but nothing to show for it aprt from a few essays and bit of code and design.
Basically, more vocational work that acedemic theory.

Manchester web design

By: Willy Fernandez

Willy Fernandez — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:32:07 +0000

It is worth remembering that web design is something that can – to an extent – be self-taught. Therefore, the ball is in the court of the student to a large extent.

Too many late nights for some of these chaps i reckon.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:31:49 +0000

Unfortunately I’ve been asked to removed some of the comments due to some false accusations and rather immature name calling.

Personal issues shouldn’t be dragged out over a comment thread, although I respect that the topic of my post may have caused offense to certain people.